Back again on the NLJBS podcast, we've got great friend of the show  Mr. Ben Proudman hanging out and talkin' shit with Nick. Ben comes down to Alley Cat Tattoo in the heart of the Shenandoah Valley from Frederick, MD and Black Label Tattoo. It's a wild and varied volley of conversation between these two that goes all over the place, so there's sure to be something of interest to you in there. Enjoy and we'll see you this weekend at the Richmond Tattoo Convention in the capital of Virginia. Keepin' it real.