Jill "Horiyuki" Bonny has been doing Japanese style tattooing for over twenty years and is the owner of Studio Kazoku in San Francisco. Her experience and knowledge of tattooing is vast but her humility and attitude make her very approachable in any setting. Two years ago when Nick was first invited to attend Pagoda City, he was talking to Justin Weatherholtz (NLJBS alumni,) who asked if their was anyone that Nick would like him to connect him with before hand to do a podcast. Nick responded with one name: Jill Bonny. Her work has always been impressive as Nick has a strong love of Japanese style tattooing but he had never even seen a picture of her. Nick just knew that he wanted to talk with her. Jill's passion for tattooing and her desire to honor her mentors is very apparent in this episode. One of the things is most enjoyable about this podcast is her understanding of not just tattoo culture but of Japanese culture. In very simple terms she explains the etiquette required to conduct these interviews and maintain her relationships with these Masters and their families. It cannot be overstated: Nick's affinity for Jill and how much it means to him that she is a part of his life and this podcast is evident in what you hear on this episode. Andrew participates in the conversation, then appears again in Shop Talk, along with Nick and, of course, Porter.